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Lyle Enright's avatar

What you said about constraints hit perfectly for me, as a creator. It's something I've been trying to articulate for a while and you just did it in a big, encouraging way:

Don't tell me to think outside the box. I don't know what I'm doing outside the box. Give me a box -- the littler and the tighter the better -- and then I'll show you how the inside is bigger than the outside.

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Russell Nohelty's avatar

100%. I love a good box.

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Charles "Chuck"  Williams's avatar

The best part of having a box is making the rules of the box. Take the box that life gives you and then make a smaller box that fits in it where you make up the rules. That's what writing is for me.

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Bryce Payne's avatar

Thanks for sharing this perspective and the parallels with music and the story of Casablanca. Good stuff.

I hadn't read this Kurt Vonnegut quotation before:

The arts are not a way to make a living. They are a very human way of making life more bearable. Practicing an art, no matter how well or badly, is a way to make your soul grow, for heaven's sake.

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Russell Nohelty's avatar

It's one of my favorites. Vonnegut is my wife's favorite author.

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Melissa Yi's avatar

You’re the first person I’ve seen explain how to bring people into your work if you’re ahead of the curve.

1. Pay the influencers (DJ’s)

2. Give them a door they like (fairy tales)

3. Market yourself as niche (Kickstarter)

Thank you. This and the chronic illness article, especially, have given me lots to chew on.

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Russell Nohelty's avatar

You're welcome, and you're spot on.

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Andy Boenau's avatar

I wasn't nearly as annoyed by Rubin as you. 😉 The thing that sticks with me from his interview is that he subtracts first, where other producers add first. He says things like "I don't know what makes a hit" but then describes what makes a hit.

He's been so successful in multiple genres that I believe his claim that he helps artists be better versions of themselves. That POV definitely translates to other mediums, and encourages me. I've experienced versions of that--subtracting to figure out why my work is resonating with an audience.

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Russell Nohelty's avatar

that is an interesting point.

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Andy Boenau's avatar

I will also freely admit Rick Rubin's voice is a siren to me, and I can't not listen. He and Neil Gaiman keep me in a trance, no matter what they're talking about!

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Russell Nohelty's avatar

That’s fair. I am with you on gaiman. I have tried listening to rubins podcast a half dozen times and it always rubs me the wrong way. Have you listened to I only listen to the mountain goats?

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Andy Boenau's avatar

No, I haven't. But good point, I haven't listened to Rubin's, I meant listening to him tell stories as he's being interviewed by others.

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Russell Nohelty's avatar

Maybe you should give it a try. I don’t like it, and I love music and philosophy podcasts, and I love Pushkin generally. They make some of my favorite shows.

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